Bjørn Lomborg

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Lex Fridman Podcast · #339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin · 18 Nov 2022 podcast

So for me, I use global warming and climate change interchangeably, and I think it's fair.

There's some technical ways that you can differentiate them, but the reality is that global warming is probably a better way to describe a lot of it because this is really what is the main driver of what we worry about.

Climate change seems a little diffuse, but it's convenient when you talk about climate all the time that you can call both of them

But I think the climate crisis and the climate catastrophe is really sort of the amping up of a catastrophe.

And again, as we've talked about before, if it really were true, we should tell people.

But if it's not true, and I think there's a lot of reasons why this is not a climate catastrophe, this is a problem.

We're actually doing everyone a disservice because we end up making people so worried that they say, we got to fix this in 12 years or whatever the number is.

And also that it makes it almost impossible to have a conversation of, well, maybe we should be focusing on vulnerability first.

And a lot of people, and I think a lot of well-meaning people,

Uh, and well-intentioned people feel that it's almost sacrilegious to do, you know, to say it's a, it's about a vulnerability because you're taking away the guilt of climate change.

You're taking away our focus on, on, on dealing with climate change.

Whereas I think we would say it's about stuff that actually works and, you know, doing that first.

I think the UN Climate Panel is fundamentally a really good climate research group.

You can have some quibbles with the way that they sort of summarize it in politically coordinated documents and stuff.

But fundamentally, I think they do a good job of putting together all the research.

This also means it's incredibly boring to read, which is why virtually nobody does it.

I'm sure you have, but I'm pretty sure a lot of climate journalists have never sort of looked past at least the

Uh, the summary for policymakers.

So they do like a, they do predictions as well.

Well, they, they pull together all the stuff that people have published in the period literature, uh, and then try to summarize it and basically tell you, so what's up and down with climate change.

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