Bjørn Lomborg

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Lex Fridman Podcast · #339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin · 18 Nov 2022 podcast

Look, if you want to save people from the impacts of hurricanes, let's fix the simple, easy things about vulnerability first.

Whereas we have somehow latched onto this, let's fix the hardest thing to do, which is to get everyone to stop using fossil fuels, which is basically what's driven the last 200 years of development.

That's a tall order, no matter how you look at it.

So we actually did a whole project back in 2009 when the whole world circus was coming to Copenhagen and we were going to save the world there.

We brought together about 50 climate economists and three Nobel laureates to look at where can you spend a dollar and do the most good for climate.

And what they found was a lot of these things, as we've been talking about before, that basically investing in the current sort of technology that we're trying very hard is at best a pretty dicey outcome.

Much of it is probably less than a dollar back in the dollar.

There's some investments on adaptation, for instance, that's pretty good, but it's sort of two, three dollars back in the dollar.

What is adaptation?

The obvious thing is that you build a dike for a sea level rise or that you make people, you get some apps that people know that there's a hurricane coming or that, you know, so you can adapt.

The infrastructure, right?

The physical and the digital infrastructure.

Yes.

The point is that people are really good at doing this already because they have a strong incentive to do it.

So the extra thing that governments can do outside is somewhat good, but it's not amazing or anything.

What we found by far the best investment in the long run was on investment in energy innovation.

So, uh, and, and I think this also sort of corresponds with what we would think in general, uh, if we could innovate.

So, you know, for instance, Bill Gates is arguing we should have fourth generation nuclear.

So the next, uh, more advanced than what we currently have in third generation nuclear, which would be, uh, uh, industrial scale process.

You'd just be building these, you know, uh,

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