Bjørn Lomborg

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Lex Fridman Podcast · #339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin · 18 Nov 2022 podcast

It's hard to do.

Indonesia's actually somewhat managed to get rid of it.

Because remember, if you spend a lot of money on fossil fuel subsidies, you're basically subsidizing the rich.

Because poor people don't have a car.

It's the rich people who can now buy very cheap gasoline.

That's

unjust as well.

So it's dumb in so many different ways.

I would never argue that you shouldn't.

I've plenty of times said we should stop that.

But we should also recognize these are mostly regimes that are not going to be taken over either by my argument or Bob Ward's or anyone else's.

They're doing this for totally different reasons.

Now, on the model side,

There is virtually no model that don't show economic model that don't show this has a cost.

And that's the fundamental point is that the, you know, this is sort of a basic point from, from economics.

The system is already working most effectively because if it wasn't, you know, you could actually make money.

changing over so if you want to have a change outside of what the system is already doing it's because you're saying you have to do something that you rather not want to do namely use an energy source that is less convenient or less cost effective and so on and that will incur a cost

Now, there's huge discussion about just exactly how much cost is that.

So there's definitely a cost.

Is the cost going to be one or five trillion?

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