Bjørn Lomborg

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Lex Fridman Podcast · #339 – Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin · 18 Nov 2022 podcast

That's how you fix these issues, right?

So the idea here is to say...

Instead of thinking that we can sort of push people to do stuff they really don't want to do, which is basically saying let's use more of the solar and wind that you would otherwise have invested in, force people to buy an electric car by giving huge subsidies because otherwise they're clearly not –

all that interest in buying it and so on, then get the innovation such that they become cheaper than fossil fuels and everyone will switch.

This is how we've solved problems in the past, if you think.

And Los Angeles in the 1950s was a hugely polluted place, mostly because of cars.

The sort of standard climate approach today would be to tell everyone in Los Angeles, I'm sorry, could you just walk instead?

And of course, that just doesn't work.

That doesn't pay off.

You never get...

you know, politicians voted in office or at least staying in office.

If you make that kind of policy, what did solve the problem was the innovation of the catalytic converter.

You basically get those little gizmo and it cost a couple hundred dollars and you put it on your tailpipe and then you can drive around basically almost not pollute.

And that's how you fix the air pollution in Los Angeles.

Basically, we've solved all problems in humanity, all big problems,

difficult problems with innovation.

We haven't solved it by telling everyone, I'm sorry, could you be a little less comfortable and a little more cold and a little poorer?

And believing that that can go on for decades.

And while it possibly works in some pockets of the U.S.,

And I think actually in large parts of Europe, at least, it used to.

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