Blayne Alexander

One, that was a very poetic way of describing this entire kind of convoluted thing. But two, I'm curious, there are always like moments in our interviews that we do that can be uncomfortable or, ooh, you're really challenging someone or you're pushing somebody. Was this uncomfortable? How was that? in the room? How did they respond to your question?

One, that was a very poetic way of describing this entire kind of convoluted thing. But two, I'm curious, there are always like moments in our interviews that we do that can be uncomfortable or, ooh, you're really challenging someone or you're pushing somebody. Was this uncomfortable? How was that? in the room? How did they respond to your question?

When we get back, we've got an extra clip from Jonathan's testimony at Sabrina's trial. So when I was watching this, my first question that I came back to, why did they have to kill the guy? Why murder, right? Why not divorce?

When we get back, we've got an extra clip from Jonathan's testimony at Sabrina's trial. So when I was watching this, my first question that I came back to, why did they have to kill the guy? Why murder, right? Why not divorce?

One of the questions I had the day that Rob was murdered is a day where he's actually covering a shift for another employee. How would Jonathan know that he was picking up that shift? Did investigators think Sabrina might have told him or did he kind of get that hanging around the wolf bag?

One of the questions I had the day that Rob was murdered is a day where he's actually covering a shift for another employee. How would Jonathan know that he was picking up that shift? Did investigators think Sabrina might have told him or did he kind of get that hanging around the wolf bag?

That's her argument. One of the questions that was posed during this episode was why would Jonathan throw away his entire life?

That's her argument. One of the questions that was posed during this episode was why would Jonathan throw away his entire life?

Especially if you feel that it's all kind of, I guess, underwritten or supported by religion, right?

Especially if you feel that it's all kind of, I guess, underwritten or supported by religion, right?

That's what's so fascinating about this. There's kind of this notion of when you talk about the kind of push and pull between what prosecutors allege happened and then just the religion behind it. And at one point we heard her say Rob would rather be dead than divorced. I wonder if at some point there was kind of this decision that was essentially almost made for Rob, right?

That's what's so fascinating about this. There's kind of this notion of when you talk about the kind of push and pull between what prosecutors allege happened and then just the religion behind it. And at one point we heard her say Rob would rather be dead than divorced. I wonder if at some point there was kind of this decision that was essentially almost made for Rob, right?

Like if the question is why not divorce, kind of saying, well, he would prefer it this way. I wonder if that was part of the mindset of like, hey, we're almost doing him a favor.

Like if the question is why not divorce, kind of saying, well, he would prefer it this way. I wonder if that was part of the mindset of like, hey, we're almost doing him a favor.

You're not doing them a favor. I was even struck. One thing that almost gave me chills was when we listened to the wiretap and it sounded like they literally prayed for the wisdom to be able to cover up a murder.

You're not doing them a favor. I was even struck. One thing that almost gave me chills was when we listened to the wiretap and it sounded like they literally prayed for the wisdom to be able to cover up a murder.

Several. You shall not kill. You shall not lie. Like, there were a lot of commandments.

Several. You shall not kill. You shall not lie. Like, there were a lot of commandments.

Exactly. Exactly.

Exactly. Exactly.