Bob Amsterdam

I think he's incredibly consequential in foreign affairs.

On domestic policy, on legal issues, I think the rule of law is in trouble.

but I won't go into that now.

I've noticed.

No, I agree.

But foreign policy-wise, he's moved incredible mountains.

And I'm not just talking about the recent activities with the hostages.

I'm talking about, as a lawyer engaged in Africa, the man has done more to open up our eyes to the opportunities in parts of Africa.

He's made it much less risky now

to go into africa as as an american in africa over the last decades you don't know how frustrating it is when the department of justice opens up investigations the minute uh american companies want to venture into africa or into latin america and now that's not happening and now come american companies are going into some of the wild west countries in africa and latin america and i say more power to them

Why would we just hand this to China?

Congo, most obviously, but others.

Yes.

Let's be very clear that the Nigerian government is populated by Christians and Muslims.

um i have represented uh in his earlier life the national security advisor of nigeria when he was a young man and uh he's a lovely individual um and and caring and and and uh universally uh respected in terms of religious issues devout muslim but universally respected

In my adopted family in Lagos, the Odesanya family sort of adopted me when I was a very, very young man and living there.

I sort of have a half brother there, Dapo Odesanya.

That family is a totally integrated family, Muslim family.

Christian.

I was always teased that I was a Juruba, which is a Jewish Yoruba.