Bob Arnold
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679 appearances
4 recordings
1 series
first heard Oct 2021
last heard Oct 2023
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So I think the problem is we don't do a minimally decent job of helping people understand that journey.
right?
It seems to me that one is I need to talk about what the journey would look like.
And two, I need to be quiet and hear and build with them a story of what's most important for your life or your loved one's life as we think about the future, given what we know about that.
I think as a travel guide, I need to know that there's way more than science and bodies.
They're existential and religious beliefs.
So even if the...
this isn't working the science thing isn't working on the body there are many patients who believe and their families who believe that something else will work on the body and we need to walk with them with beliefs that aren't in our normal wheelhouse as a doctor to a certain extent we need to be more expansive in how we think of ourselves as clinicians
where we're walking with people, we're letting them talk to us about their hopes and their worries and their fears.
We're giving some biologic information if they want it.
We're reevaluating how that all impacts them.
And I think part of the problem is for many people who are doctors, and I'm not talking to our palliative care geriatric audience,
there is a sense of what it is to be a doctor is to fix things, is to save lives.
And I think that part of the problem with our language is it shows what as clinicians we really
put most of our values in, which is science and fixing and biologic abnormalities.
And so we use this language because it represents who we are as clinicians as much as anything else.
that's
I rounded with the palliative care fellow who was the first year who's just starting.
And after a week, she said to me, you are bossier than any doctor I've ever rounded with.
And I'm like, really?
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