Bob Arnold

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679 appearances 4 recordings 1 series first heard Oct 2021 last heard Oct 2023

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I I think that I would like to see these interventions done in health systems.
That are different.
I'd like to see it done in Kaiser.
I'd love to see a primary palliative care intervention done in the VA that can leverage both the staff, so some education, but also change the environmental structure of the health system and the EHR.
Because I think the problem is even if you have
really good nurses who have been trained to do it if the rest of the structure they work in focuses them on giving chemotherapy it's hard to have enough time so I want
to have interventions where we have patient reported outcomes as part of the clinic.
That is, I think part of what it shows us is that education is a key part, but it can't be the only part.
Although I would point out that you guys had Lindsay Bell and Tessie October on earlier, and that's basically where
that Yale sort of
uh organized with the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations and with the medical school here to do a whole bunch of things to try to improve in specialty palliative care, the sort of workforce issue of the diversity of the workforce.
So people should go back and listen to that podcast that you guys did.
got rid of cursing on podcasts these days.
Yeah.
Yale said that you guys leaped stuff, so I was trying to be good.
podcast.
Thanks.
Although I thought when Alex was thinking about Down and Out, I thought he was thinking about when we looked at the results of the study and if it was a negative study and then I thought, oh, it's just what Eric
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