Bob Kagan
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This is – now I'm back to serious, OK?
Going back to the Gulf states and Israel, they have other options in the region.
They already have played –
I don't want to say footsie, but certainly maintaining their good ties with China.
And I think the result of our actions, they're going to have even better ties.
So we're going to be pretty much on our own with a few stooges here and there.
I love that.
JBL is not really wrong about anything, except the one thing he said, which I just think it's worth keeping in mind.
He said the United States cannot open the strait.
That's not true.
The United States can open this trade, but not at any risk we are willing to pay for it.
Well, go in how is the problem because if –
This is why the Bush administration sent troops into Iraq in 2003, because they knew they could not accomplish their objective through the air, and they knew they could not do anything for Iraq afterwards if they were not on the ground.
If it really is an existential thing to open the Strait of Hormuz, we would have to do a full-scale invasion of Iran, because
As every military person, I don't know whether General Hertling has gotten in, I'm sure he has, the difficulty of just seizing the territory on the coast of Iran is going to be enormous in a drone world, that it's going to be very hard to protect the troops.
that we might land in Karg Island and on the coast of Iran because they'll just be in an enclave.
We won't have stopped Iran from ability to fight.
So we are willing to do certain things to try to have our way, but not really to take any great risk to have our way in the region.
And that's how we wind up where we are right now.
I guess the polls show that the opponent Magyar has a double digit lead in the polls.