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Bob Kagan

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436 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

This is – now I'm back to serious, OK?

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Going back to the Gulf states and Israel, they have other options in the region.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

They already have played –

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

I don't want to say footsie, but certainly maintaining their good ties with China.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

And I think the result of our actions, they're going to have even better ties.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

So we're going to be pretty much on our own with a few stooges here and there.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

I love that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

JBL is not really wrong about anything, except the one thing he said, which I just think it's worth keeping in mind.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

He said the United States cannot open the strait.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

That's not true.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

The United States can open this trade, but not at any risk we are willing to pay for it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Well, go in how is the problem because if –

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

This is why the Bush administration sent troops into Iraq in 2003, because they knew they could not accomplish their objective through the air, and they knew they could not do anything for Iraq afterwards if they were not on the ground.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

If it really is an existential thing to open the Strait of Hormuz, we would have to do a full-scale invasion of Iran, because

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

As every military person, I don't know whether General Hertling has gotten in, I'm sure he has, the difficulty of just seizing the territory on the coast of Iran is going to be enormous in a drone world, that it's going to be very hard to protect the troops.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

that we might land in Karg Island and on the coast of Iran because they'll just be in an enclave.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

We won't have stopped Iran from ability to fight.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

So we are willing to do certain things to try to have our way, but not really to take any great risk to have our way in the region.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

And that's how we wind up where we are right now.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

I guess the polls show that the opponent Magyar has a double digit lead in the polls.