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Bob Kagan

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436 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

A factory, which was basically a South Korean, I think it was a Hyundai factory in Georgia, was raided by ICE, and hundreds of South Korean employees were shackled and sent back.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

The Korean people were horrified by this.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

They could not believe that the United States would do this to them.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

They'd been such a good ally.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

As you just said, there's going to be money to be made in all these countries running against the United States, which is going to turn everybody against us.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

You know, in the back in the day, we used to make fun of China, who's they have a certain like two or three allies around the world.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

And it was kind of like a Star Wars bar.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

You know, they had North Korea, they have Pakistan and maybe some other like little countries, Iran.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

You know, those were their allies.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

A couple of African countries.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

And we were like, well, we have 54 partners and allies around the world.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Well, now we're going to be the ones where, let's see, our allies are the Darcy government in Venezuela.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

So far, El Salvador.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Victor Orban, but he may lose the election.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

So then Hungary will be gone.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

So I don't know who else is left after.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

Well, we're in business with UAE and so far right now.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

For the moment.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

But let me tell you something.

The Bulwark Podcast
Robert Kagan: We’re Transitioning to a Post-American World

The UAE has good relations with China.