Bob Kagan

Right.

I got to say, it's a real strain on, again, what I what we can call the Reaganite wing of the Republican Party, which still, you know, which I thought still existed, you know, because, you know.

I love the Wall Street Journal, but the Wall Street Journal watches the speech that Trump gave the other night and says that it was it was really a home run in terms of.

You know, I what I thought they sort of fancied themselves independent, you know, kind of independent.

So I don't know.

I don't know what happens now.

I'm actually more worried today than I had been before.

You know, people talk about, well, wait, boy, I can't wait till we get over Trump.

You know, once we get past Trump, then it's all Dean Atchison and Harry Truman there on out, you know.

And my problem with that is twofold.

One is the Democratic Party is not the party of Harry Truman and Dean Atchison, if we remember a couple of years back.

But now the Republican Party is not the Republican Party anymore.

And I thought, you know, there were always signs that maybe there was some kind of on Ukraine and other things.

There's been a lingering, you know, Reaganites people.

They're going to stand up, you know, for that at least.

But that seems to be the wayside.

By the way, one of these people who said we should pull out of NATO said we should still be supporting Ukraine, though.

Why?

First of all, how if we have given up on NATO?

But but second of all, why exactly are we going to, you know, only help countries that we think we like?