Bob Kagan

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The Bulwark Daily · Robert Kagan and Marianne Williamson: Slipping Into Dictatorship · 4 Feb 2026 podcast

By traditional standards in the post-war period, Biden was a pretty protectionist president.

There's corruption and there's the vindictiveness.

And I didn't like the way the Swiss president talked to me.

So they get 10% tariffs and all that kind of stuff.

So sure, we'll have a more rational protectionist system under the Democrats.

Anyway, let us get to the point where we have a different administration in 2028.

I don't think we're going to have fair elections in 2026.

So and by the way, the world needs to understand that, too.

They sort of can't believe it's hard for them to believe the United States is actually slipping into dictatorship.

And as that becomes clearer.

that is also going to have an effect on the way the rest of the world views us.

At least when we were a democracy, there was sort of shared values, even if we were not behaving as responsibly as we could be.

But when the United States is a dictatorship, I don't know why we would expect European or Asian countries that are not dictatorships to think kindly about us.

Well, I mean, first of all, you know, when we say things like he's not very good at it, we've already pocketed the fact that in one year they destroyed the federal government.

I mean, it's really quite an accomplishment.

I think historians will look back on this period and say, wow, boy, I tell you what, Stephen Miller and Russell Vaught, that's world historical stuff that they'd done.

They took a democratic system and basically dismantled it in one year.

We are used to the fact that

that the Justice Department is now a wholly owned legal service for going after Trump's enemies.

We've internalized- Okay, but they're very bad at it.

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