Bob Stauffer

We get it.

There's there's been a fair amount.

And believe me, a lot of response on this issue on the Ashley Fine Florence text line.

The fact that Edmonton would go down this path on Mike Babcock.

I'm not going to BS you.

There's there's been a lot of criticism there.

We're certainly aware that there is some baggage with Mike that has occurred.

I was not in Columbus.

I got no idea what transpired in Columbus and how all that played out.

I'd like to get, I have my own feelings on Mike and they might differ from others.

What are your thoughts?

So there's two conversations to have here, Bob.

Well, let's start with Mike Babcock, the coach.

Yeah, it's interesting, right?

Like, I think John Cooper is generally regarded as one of the best coaches in the NHL.

John's in a really tough division.

I think in fairness to the Leafs, they too, and you can speak this on Sheldon Keefe as well, they too during Sheldon's time were in a very tough division.

I bring up John Cooper.

He's in the last four playoff years has not advanced out of the first round.

He's two and ten at home.