Bob Stauffer

in the last four years in the playoffs with a world-class goaltender in andre vasileski now headman didn't play this year but a top 20 defenseman in the league and two of the top forwards in the league including the reigning heart trophy winner nikita kucherov as well so your point is is that really good high-end coaches sometimes can go long stretches without getting results i think that's a fair point to make um but his results are what they are they are what they are and some might say good and bad for good and for bad

And Ryan, I want to point this out.

We've had a lot of people text the show.

Bob, Bruce Cassidy's had 450 win seasons in his seven full seasons as head coach.

That's pretty good.

Babs won 50 straight four years in Detroit.

He's not won 50 since those four years in Detroit.

And others will say, Bob, you can't even compare the analytics on Babcock's teams in Toronto with a more recent run with Daryl Sutter and how good analytically he was in Calgary.

So that's the other end of the argument on the hockey side with some other names out there.

Now, let's get to part two.

The floor is yours.

Ryan, I bet you Mike Babcock would concede that that was one of the dumbest things he's ever done in his life, okay?

All right, can I just interject one thing?

Yeah, of course you can.

So we have a situation where the league's investigating what occurred in Columbus.

You and me, we're not in Columbus.

No.

Columbus has got a really good beat reporter, Aaron Portsline.

It just kind of went away from an NHL-NHL.

So the question I have for you is... But you know what else happened, Bob, is Babcock went away.