Bob Voulgaris

10 or 2011 when I played in a game in LA with some characters.

And if they wouldn't allow me to take a deck home with them, like in the middle of the like, I basically like I had to feel like I would always want to take a deck home with me.

Because I want to make sure the deck doesn't have invisible ink on it or doesn't have RFID scans.

Now, the new latest thing is the Shuffle Master 2.

Yeah, the Rig Shuffler, which that's something that I wouldn't, if like the last time I played a home port, I knew that that deck had the ability to do that.

I didn't realize the level of which you could program it via USB.

And I wonder how many people were doing that.

I don't think it was a lot, but that would have got me, because I could get you in a casino too.

You could be at a casino,

in Vegas, and if someone was able to access a Deckmate 2 in seat 1 or seat whatever and just plug something into the USB, that's something that would get me.

Correct.

But there's other ways people are cheating too.

I remember playing in a poker tournament in Europe and then playing in cash games later, and the guy had a camera on his ring

and he was sitting, always wanted to sit in seat one or seat 10, and he was catching the cards as the dealer was dealing them out via camera and then sending that to someone else who was then giving him the information this year.

So to make a long story short, poker is very treacherous, and I feel like if you're playing in poker games, you need for high stakes and high amounts, lots of amounts, you have to be very, very careful because as long as poker's been around, there's people who want to cheat.

You just have to be someone who's just very trusting or unsophisticated or just naive maybe in some ways.

The other thing I would always say is when I was playing in poker is why would someone want me to play in this poker game?

I'm someone who's probably like, if I'm a professional poker player, I'm someone who probably rates to win.

And if a game runner is inviting me to a game and doesn't want a percentage of me,

I immediately am suspicious.