Bobby Marks
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The Ryen Russillo Podcast
NBA Trade Market Check-In With Bobby Marks, Plus NFL Divisional Round Preview and Picks With Ted Nguyen
we threw up like a fictitious Jimmy Butler trade, right? Like Middleton and Portis were going to Miami and Connaughton was going to Detroit. This convoluted thing. And Bucs fans were like, oh my God, this is happening. And I was like, wait a minute, like fictional, right? Like it's not real and stuff like that. And even like if it was real, I don't think Milwaukee would do something like that.
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I just don't. Like that's like, that's basically having like one swing left and you're basically going to use it on Jimmy Butler.
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I think, I think the smart thing, and I don't, I believe this has not happened. Um, just because I dealt with this with Carmelo back in the way back in 2010, Denver allowed permission for teams to talk to Butler and his reps. I mean, Anthony is rep.
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So I think if I was Miami and you get to a point and there are teams that are, you know, that they're interested and there could be a framework of something, I think that's something that the Heat should do. They probably won't as far as say like, hey, Memphis, we're going to give you 24 hours.
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You can meet with Jimmy Butler and his agent, Bernie Lee, and figure out like if this makes sense and go from there. But I think if I'm in a front office, I think my big question is what's the number next year? Like, what are we looking for? You've got a $52 million player option. We're not going up from that number, right?
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Like you want to start at 40 and go from there, or maybe we could decline and we get creative and we do a Chris Paul type contract. Remember Chris signed that four for 120 and the first two years were guaranteed and there was a partial there and you want to do something like that, give you some length. We'd be interested in that.
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NBA Trade Market Check-In With Bobby Marks, Plus NFL Divisional Round Preview and Picks With Ted Nguyen
but the ideal that, and maybe, you know, certainly if he was traded to Phoenix, maybe that's a, you know, you know, that's, they're going to basically reward him with whatever they want. The idea of giving Jimmy Butler a two year, um, because if he's traded, they can extend, you can extend it for two, four, one 11.
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that number at 36 37 like the reality probably the rhino won't end bad because like that will be the last contract so like it's not like he's waiting for another one it's not like this is miami or minnesota or philly or chicago or the other places here but i think that's the the conversation with me is kind of what's the number right like what's the number are you willing to and are and is he going to be happy with that number like that's the that's the most important thing
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NBA Trade Market Check-In With Bobby Marks, Plus NFL Divisional Round Preview and Picks With Ted Nguyen
Oh, sure.
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NBA Trade Market Check-In With Bobby Marks, Plus NFL Divisional Round Preview and Picks With Ted Nguyen
Yeah, the pigeons are flying above with the notes, right? They're kind of dropping the notes as far as with that. Yeah, you have a sense. But I think it would be what I would want. I would want to talk to the player. It's one thing, you know, kind of back channeling with the agent. I would want to talk with the player. Yeah, that would be important to me.
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I would want my coach and I would want my general manager to talk to the player.
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NBA Trade Market Check-In With Bobby Marks, Plus NFL Divisional Round Preview and Picks With Ted Nguyen
You can read through guys. I think the other thing, too, is it always says, what are we giving up? What are we giving up as far as are these core guys, are these expirings, are these guys that are hurt, not part of the rotation? Is it worth it? I think that goes into it too.
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NBA Trade Market Check-In With Bobby Marks, Plus NFL Divisional Round Preview and Picks With Ted Nguyen
But yeah, that's why, as I said, I would want, you know, I'd want my coach, I would want to meet with the player, you know, even if it's over Zoom.
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NBA Trade Market Check-In With Bobby Marks, Plus NFL Divisional Round Preview and Picks With Ted Nguyen
Yeah, well, listen, it's easy. It's basically you would have to trade Marcus Smart, Brandon Clark.
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NBA Trade Market Check-In With Bobby Marks, Plus NFL Divisional Round Preview and Picks With Ted Nguyen
I, first of all, I just wanted to mention, as bad as it was last year in Memphis, they basically use this as an audition in a developmental year for all these guys. And this is kind of what you're getting right now.
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NBA Trade Market Check-In With Bobby Marks, Plus NFL Divisional Round Preview and Picks With Ted Nguyen
So,
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Like if you're, if we're talking like baseball, right? Like who's that AAA guy, that third baseman in the system that we can, like we could trade for. And then we can, you know, he's going to be our guy moving forward. Listen, I love Jake LaRavia. I know that's not the household name and everything like that. And I like Santi Aldama, what he's been able to do.
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Borrevia's problem is that Memphis declined his fourth year option. So whoever trades for him is limited as far as what they can pay him in free agency. It's like in that $4 to $5 million range. So that would be a guy that I would really want, but I don't know. I think you're going to probably get outbid in free agency worth. I think it would be Aldama just based on as far as what he's been able to
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i think this is an asset that's a far more diminished asset than the actual attention it's getting but it's getting the attention because it's the heat because it's butler and we don't really have anything else other than veal which we'll get to yeah i mean listen we i think there's a lot of different ways to to go at this i think um i think you could i could i think you could say listen miami missed the the window to trade them they knew there was going to be smoke right as soon as they didn't sign him this to this extension that he was that he's still eligible to for
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NBA Trade Market Check-In With Bobby Marks, Plus NFL Divisional Round Preview and Picks With Ted Nguyen
You knew eventually during the season here there was going to be some type of blow-up, right? You just didn't know when it was going to be, and then it happens sometime in late December. So you could say, well, they should have just traded him this summer, right? That would have probably made the most sense from a clean standpoint, and you're not dealing with this. They elected not to do it.
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Well, listen, I talked to a couple of teams about it and the biggest hindrance is not a five and a seven in the last year. is that no trade comes with it. And listen, Mark Bartlestein, his agent, went on the record with Windy and said, like, we're not removing that from the contract. You trade for him, it's coming with him, right? Like, that's a hindrance that teams mentioned to me.
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Like, for some teams, that's like a non-starter, as far as, because what happens, you know, a year from now, and we want to maybe flip him again, we're basically going through this same process here. Man, he's owed $110 million after this year, 53 and 57. I wish the game and when they play, when he came off the bench in Philly, that I wish that was more that we saw that we've seen.
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I mean, you watch the during they were in Atlanta the other last night, I think. Not good. No, the Atlanta game last night.
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Yeah, even the game they won in Phoenix. I mean, Charlotte had them on the ropes going into the fourth. That wasn't a layup there. The market for him... Listen, there's... I always say every player is tradable, right? But man, he is as close...
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pretty close to you know basically just because of how high that number in this in the in the the um where we are with all these rules the inability for phoenix to trade multiple draft picks to attach with them they only have a 2031 they've got a couple seconds here um you know people say well detroit would take them like i don't think so man um charlotte would take them like
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You're not taking $57 million or $53 million unless you're getting a lot back. That just doesn't make sense here. So it's a fascinating situation because it's not going to get much better in Phoenix next year. We might be doing this podcast a year from now and you'll be like, what's going on with the Suns? I'll be like, Groundhog Day, right? Their guys are going to be older.
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They're still going to have one first round pick to trade. They're still going to be in the second apron. They're still going to pay a record high, maybe $500 million in luxury tax and penalty. And they're going to have hard decisions to make as far as if they have to pivot off this. And if you pivot off it, whether it be Durant, let's say,
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the likelihood is that Beal is still going to be on your roster, right? Like that's just the reality of it here. And that's something they needed to accept when they traded for him in Washington here. So the market for him is not great. You may, you know, listen, would Milwaukee trade for him? And if you basically, the package I just mentioned and stuff, that's a big number.
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It's like, you'd almost rather just have some flexibility this off season and try to, you know, add through free agency.
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From a common-sense perspective, and I know we're probably throwing common sense out the window a little bit here, the best thing for him to do is when the extension is lifted for him to report and play a Friday night against Denver and Saturday, a Sunday against San Antonio and play like a, an all NBA type level player. Like that's the best approach for Jimmy Butler.
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Well, yeah. I mean, listen, you think he really wants to pick up in the middle of February and move somewhere else with his wife and kids? Like, come on, man. Like, that ain't easy either. I mean, he made, listen, he, I give Mark Barlstein, his agent, a ton of credit because he put that no trade clause in there when nobody else had it and he had the right to.
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You should have heard the phone calls, Ryan, when that happened because we had put it out. And I remember being in the summer league that year and I had teams coming up to me like angry, like angry with me. I'm like, I, I, I didn't do any, like, I didn't go like they're angry with me because I put it out. Like, you're killing me.
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Like now I got to deal with like this, you know, with this agent and that guy. And I'm like, so what?
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what do you want me to do about it and stuff and listen it's you know the eight years in the nba four with the team it's open it's available to everyone right you can go out there and negotiate it and listen there's i was talking with jeff passon about this because about mlb guys and there's 44 mlb guys that have it like you know there's there's two in the nba lebron and bradley beal and we're probably not going to see another one unless it's
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Victor down the road or something like that here. And the reason why they're so rare, Ryan, is that you can't include them in extensions. They basically have to be a free agent type contract. And how many guys actually hit free agency now?
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And that's the best approach for Miami. And then continually see if there's a deal by February 6th. And if not, opt into your contract and let's see if we can, well, let's find you a home during the summer, right? Like that is like the logical thing to happen here. And I've been told multiple times, certainly by people close to his camp, like that was gonna happen. And then the wheels...
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Oh man. Well, we were, but Tim, uh, Tim McMahon and I wrote this article back in, uh, end of December. And really the, the theme was trying to figure out, um, like kind of what his value is. He's like the mystery man, the hardest guy to figure out, right. In the NBA, as far as what his value is.
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I was shockingly surprised that his value was higher than it was when we just talked, we both of us talked to a ton of teams, um, that it was, there was value there, right? Like, But man, is he an enigma. And it ain't even on the court. It's like, you're out rehabbing, you come back, and now like... He's out two months.
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I was so excited. We wrote about it. Cause you know, he's got these weight clauses in there in this contract, right? Like he's going to hit the weight clause. Like, like that's, he looks great. He looks physical, man. He's doing windmill three sixties and you know, he looked great against, um, uh, who'd they play last night? Yeah. Chicago. And you know, like, listen, he looked great.
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but damn it, can you just get to the plane on time, right? Can you get to practice on time? Can you do all these things that they're asking you to be? You're the face of the franchise, and you've played, I don't know, 30% of regular season games, and we're paying $38 million here. So if you're Griff in New Orleans, you're trying to maximize as much value on the court.
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But then there's still the risk of him, man, a hamstring, a calf, or something like that. But as I said, like, you know... you know, teams, teams have called this contract one of the great ones in the NBA because it's like an NFL type contract, right? It's kind of got like rolling protections, right?
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Like if you play a certain amount of games or you hit the weight clauses, certain parts get guaranteed and the next three years aren't guaranteed. So, I would probably wait it out this year. Hopefully he stays healthy for the last, whatever, 40 games, and then kind of reevaluate kind of where you are and maybe look for trade shooters. I think it'll be interesting. You know, Ingram, right?
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We haven't heard about him at all. Man, he's been hurt with the ankle and stuff like that. What happens? What's the market for Brandon Ingram? What's the value for Brandon Ingram right now? Is it expirings and a future first down the road? I don't know, and I think that's going to be another one to kind of watch in the next few weeks.
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fell off the track. The train went off the track a couple weeks ago with those two games and everything, and he gets suspended here. I think that's going to be the unknown what happens with that Denver game. He's going to be standing in a corner again. He's going to be passive-aggressive. There's a lot to go into that here.
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Yeah. The only time I would see a team waving Zion would be like the fifth. Yeah. If they get them or, you know, you get to the fifth year and like, this thing has not worked at all.
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Then we're just going to release it. They ain't waving them, man. Like that ain't, that, that, that ain't happened at all. Like I, we, I talked to one team and I said like, give me a number one to 10. What do you think is value? I was waiting for like a three or four. They said it's seven, five. I was like, Holy God. And then when we did more research on this, that seems a little high.
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Yeah, I was like, oh, goodness. I was like a six.
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They nailed it again. Jordan Hawkins, when he plays, can really fill it up.
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I think at the end of the day for Miami, you know this, they're not trading him for Bradley. They're not going to go out there and appease Jimmy Butler because Phoenix is the number one choice for Jimmy Butler. but they're not taking back Bradley Beal and $110 million. And what other deals are out there to make?
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I've kind of, like, grew more on Zach Levine lately. I really have. I don't know why. It's funny. Like, you know, it's the power of social media, right? Like I had said, I had put out, what was it? The game, the San Antonio game. It was like his fifth 30 point game.
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And I put out his last five and like some lady who must be collecting all my tweets says, well, you're the guy who said you should just trade him the last summer for and include all the draft picks for. I was like, well, I didn't listen. The guy hasn't played, you know, like he's been hurt. Like he wasn't very good defensively. He's not very good. I would be, I would be more inclined with Levine.
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I would like, like Butler. That teases me a little bit here, but here's the thing. Here's the thing. And I was talking to a team about it. They said to me, everybody says like playoff Jimmy. When, when, when have you, when have we gotten playoff Jimmy? Think about it.
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When was the last time we got playoff? Jimmy 2000, first round, uh, 2023, uh, playoffs where they beat Milwaukee.
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I would probably go Levine, Butler, Beal. I'm still scared of that Beal contract, man. If Ryan was in there, I would take him one. I would take a flyer. Listen, if I were the Nets, I would say, and I don't think New Orleans would do this, I would say, hey, here's Simmons, and I'll give you a first and a least favorable first in another year. I'm going to take a flyer on Zion Williamson because
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At the reality, we can keep on talking about Brooklyn having $60 million in cap space and who's out there this summer. Not much, unless it comes in a trade. And I would rather throw up a three-pointer from deep and see if it works and it goes in on Zion. But listen, I don't think the Pelicans would probably do that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. It would be hot. Yeah. You know, whatever, you know, you make figured out the money afterwards. I would, I don't know. He's playing point. I don't know. It's going to be my shooters.
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And I think, I know things have been floating around that Jimmy Butler wouldn't want to play in Milwaukee or Memphis and teams like that. If I'm a team like Memphis and I'm trading some expirings and maybe Marcus Smart or even Brandon Clark and I get to give a first round pick, just hypothetical, I might take a swing for that for the next four months with Jimmy Butler on my team.
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Yeah, I mean, listen, as you said, like after OKC, it's like, right? I mean, Houston, Memphis, Denver. Just take your pick. Yeah, it's like they're all kind of like.
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You know, Dallas, they got to get healthy. Minnie's kind of, I mean. trying to get out of their own way. Right.
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Yeah. It's like, you know, um, sack Phoenix, like Sanitone, you know, like clips, like clips are a good story, you know, based on everything. Right. Like the fan, like crazy, they'll, they'll be there. Right. They'll probably maybe crap talk six, but after OKC, it's kind of, it is a really a mixed bag.
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How can I get Robert Williams? Hey!
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No, listen, we could probably talk the next two hours and stuff. But listen, I think...
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all get caught up with the trade deadline i always keep on reminding people there's only 440 guys in the nba right and there's i know 96 of the nba players can be traded but the uh the landscape of doing deals um is is going to be quite amazing here i think i think okay oklahoma city is going to be an interesting team to watch and i not really from a um not from a player standpoint i don't i don't think sam's in the business of keep on adding i mean like they've already spent like 300 million this summer they're going to
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Like $800 million next year. I think Oklahoma City is an interesting team to watch. And I tease this a little bit when I say I call it the Bank of Presti. And what the Bank of Presti is is when you're sitting on all these draft picks, Ryan, you can start leveraging the heck out of these teams. So what you saw last year, right?
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Because here's the reality. Who's going to sign him in free agency? That's the $100 million question. I don't see anyone lined up to sign him with cap space. I don't see Brooklyn going out there and signing him, although Brooklyn will have $60 million in cap space and pay him $40 million. The hard part comes with, though, Ryan, is, okay, let's say this plays out and he opts in.
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Remember Dallas and like, Hey, how'd they get a third first round pick? And they're like, well, they just traded a swap rights in 28 to get the, to get their, the wizards pick and whatever. And then they trade. And it was a 26 pick in a draft. I think, I think teams like Oklahoma city and Brooklyn and,
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teams that we've we talked a little bit about draft teams that control the draft there's there's like four teams that have like 65 first in the next seven years which is ridiculous what's the number for 25 because i know you just there's six teams there's six teams that have 16 out of 30 first round picks um in this year and that includes atlanta too because they've got a king's first that's protected they got a um
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They got a Lakers first, unprotected. Houston's got Phoenix's pick. And I think when you're in a position like Brooklyn and you're in a position like Oklahoma City and you see teams like Milwaukee, Phoenix, and Denver, and all these teams that basically have one tradable draft asset out there, how can you leverage it to get more players? more picks and everything like that.
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So I don't like Oklahoma city is, I don't see them as a team, like a cam Johnson team, right? Like I don't see them going out and be like, Hey, we're going to give you two ones and going to give you Isaiah, uh, Joe and Aaron way. And like, I, I don't see that, but I do think there's a way out there where Oklahoma city can kind of start.
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And even Brooklyn can, can start consolidating some of their picks. Like Brooklyn's got, you know, seven, 18, 20, it's like a bingo board, 26, 27, right? And the draft order and stuff like that. How do you take those and try to make it a little bit neater for you?
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Yeah, ESPN.com, YouTube. We put out videos. A little bit of another twist. I put it out on Wednesday or Tuesday, I think. Sportsbusinessclassroom.com. We put out a CBA 101. It's an addition to where basically we took the CBA and we kind of dumbed it down for me and for everyone else out there where it basically kind of gives you the easy version and how to read. It's like Cliff Notes version.
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And we've kind of taken all the different terminology and applied it to like real life transactions. And you can kind of go through and figure out how the apron work and extensions work and exceptions and all that. And it's free, right? All you have to do is just download it from sportsbusinessclassroom.com and you can find that there too.
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You got it, buddy. I appreciate it.
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We're in a different... This is a different CBA than it was back in 2019 when Jimmy was signed and traded from Philly to Miami. That was a complicated trade, and that was under the prior CBA here. So there's a lot of different layers, but at the end of the day, What happens is, what eventually happens is controlled by Jimmy Butler.
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Because the reality is Miami, and I'm just talking for myself, if I was in their front office, he acts out again, I'm suspending him again, right? Like I'm just going to continue the cycle here. And that's not good for anybody at all.
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That's the biggest thing, right? Because all of this is financially driven. I know...
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jimmy butler can come out and say well they're not using me right and i'm not part of the offense well i watched the game a month ago in detroit where he went he put up 31 and he was part of the offense so i think that's a little bit of a cop out here and i do think it's i think this is primarily financially driven here um
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But this has been sitting here since July when Pat Riley came out and basically said we were not extending Jimmy Butler. So as you said, I think the Memphis thing makes the most sense. Who knows if there was ever any life to that. Listen, when the list of teams that had come out back in –
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December, whether it be Houston and Golden State and Dallas and Phoenix, the only clean team out of that was Houston. From a financial standpoint, draft picks, young players, and Houston's probably saying, wait a minute, we're the number two seed in the West. Let's go to the playoffs and see what we got.
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Let's get Jalen Green in a playoff series and Sangoon and Thompson and Easton and that crew, and then we'll figure out what you know, what's going to happen in the off season. You're similar. I know. Okay. See, when I got Hayward last year and he was a non-factor in the playoffs, but Oklahoma city was like a science experiment, right? All right. What works against Dallas?
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What didn't work against Dallas? Um, what do we need to address? We got to get rebound and Hartenstein. We got to get another defender and Caruso. Like that's the approach for, for, um, for me, for, um, for Houston, as far as how I see that.
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Well, even like Nicole Vucevic, right? Like, you know, do you want to give up first? Yeah, do you want to give up first? And then instead of having five firsts this summer, you've got, you know, three or four, you know, like it diminishes. I thought what Steph Curry said after that Toronto game was one of the most fascinating things I have heard an NBA player say.
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And if I was Mike Dunleavy Jr., I would be thinking, thank God. he said it right. Like as far as, Hey, like we're not going to do a quick fix. We're going to, we're, you know, sometimes you gotta be smart about these things and knee jerk reaction and stuff like that. I think the reality, Ryan, with Golden State, it's like a guy playing cards, right?
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You know, you got a stack of chips at the table and eventually you just see the chips go down and down and then you just figure out, you know what, I just need to walk away, right? I need to pick up my chips and walk away. And I don't see a big swing out there and I think it might disappoint the fan base in Golden State. And I'm just looking at their numbers, where they are.
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They're $6 million over the luxury tax. it's going to disappoint the fan base where maybe their only move might be to get under the luxury tax. Like that, that might be a realistic, you know, situation here where you're looking at, you know, moving Gary Payton or, or Looney or something like that.
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Guys are making eight, $9 million, attach a second, pay the rest of their salary, do something like that. That, that might be like the more common sense thing to do than basically say, Hey, Wiggins, Kaminga, expirings, let's go get Zach Levine. And, you know, and they're like, And it, you know, because eventually, and I don't know when it will be, there'll be something better come July.
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Usually it happens that way. Somebody gets the multiple teams get knocked out. Guys get mad. Players want to be traded. somebody knocked out of the first round or doesn't make the play-in will become available. I don't know, maybe Zion becomes available. I know we wanted to talk about that. Like I said it on NBA Today, like that's a guy like, listen, low risk, right?
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Like as far as if you don't have to give up as much because you can kind of see where his upside here is. But I do think, I think from the Golden State perspective, I think that reality has set in, right? Like this is kind of who they are. When Buddy Heald is your X factor and you need Buddy Heald to be like, you know, top five three-point shooter in the NBA, that's a lot, right?
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That's a lot to ask for.
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It's funny.
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I don't know either. A lot of this stuff is pretty cryptic. I wrote an article, and you'll appreciate this. I had a Milwaukee article written. like on the doom and gloom of Milwaukee and how they were, you know, like this is back in, I don't know, November, maybe late November. And this is when things were bad. I think two and eight bad somewhere around there. And they went on this winning streak.
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They won like six in a row. And then it got, you know, it got scrapped. Right. It just got cut. And like, we're not going to, but, Listen, what Milwaukee is, is that John Horst has made 28 trades since he took over as GM. He is one of the most creative GMs out there. eventually like the ATM, the ATM machine is dry, man. It ain't spending that money anymore here.
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And you've, you know, you got a 2031 first that you could trade. You got one second and you can't aggregate contracts. You got Portis, Middleton and you know, Portis, Middleton, Connington, Lopez. Those are your kind of your trade pieces here. And it's like, you know, you're, you know, relying on Damon Giannis. And I know some of the younger players have played well for you.
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sense and I don't really blame him like how come you guys always keep like hinting at all these different things and then it doesn't really happen and he signs the extension it's great it's funny like you'll appreciate this like I had to go on NBA Today this was a couple weeks ago and show like creative trades and basically how like Milwaukee could aggregate contracts without you know like without with getting under the second apron and we