Bobby Mesmer

So I think that it's not something that if you don't inherently have that within you, then I don't think that you're going to be – you may be able to be a leader to some extent, but you're never going to be able to be a large-capacity leader.

I think you can learn certain things, but I still think you're going to be lacking.

I do.

I look at last year, just go out and Google how many companies, startups went bankrupt in 24.

And these are companies, these are people that are entrepreneurs that had an idea that went out there and took hundreds of millions of dollars of venture capital and that they had basically a good idea, but they're bankrupt now.

Why?

Why?

Because you lost focus into leadership.

Just because you have a good idea doesn't mean you have the ability to implement and create the operations to implement the idea.

Right.

That VC bubble would know us.

It's crazy.

I agree.

It's crazy because everybody wants the big hit, right?

And including all the VC companies, they want that big hit and they believe in it.

But then you take companies like mine who are what they consider high risk.

I ain't bankrupt.

You know what I mean?

But they're running around.

They're like, oh, you want $300 billion?