Boris Cherny

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Odd Lots · The Creator of Claude Code on The Hottest Piece of Software in the World · 20 Jul 2026 podcast

And if you can kind of fully see it and you have this feedback loop, then the sculpture might come out incredible.

And it's the same thing with a model.

As it gets better and better at coding, that first pass is going to get better and better.

So it's like the sculpture is going to look nicer and nicer.

But without that feedback loop, like if Quad can't test the website it's building in a browser, if it can't open the iOS app it's building in an iOS simulator, if it can't open up the distributed system that it's writing and actually run the service end-to-end and use it, it's just not going to be as good as it could have been.

And so it's kind of the same thing.

If it can loop a few times and it can check the output of its work, it can iterate, then it's just going to be much better.

Programming is this kind of weird discipline.

It's been around in some form for, well, like 80 years, maybe.

My grandfather actually programmed in the Soviet Union.

Yeah.

And he programmed punch cards because back then the way you write code, it wasn't software.

It's not like today.

You programmed in paper and then you fed the paper into a big machine and it did some calculations and then a few lights lit up with the answer.

My mom, growing up, she would tell the story about my grandpa bringing back these big stacks of punch cards home, and she would draw all over them with her crayons.

So programming used to be physical, and before punch cards, it was purely mechanical, and it was kind of electronics.

If you think about the Apple I computer, it was all electronics.

Steve Wozniak built it as chips.

There was some software, but really all the logic was expressed in chips.

And it changed.

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