Boris Cherny

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Odd Lots · The Creator of Claude Code on The Hottest Piece of Software in the World · 20 Jul 2026 podcast

I've started to think that this idea of engineering versus design versus product versus user research versus data science, I think this is the old way of thinking about it.

My feeling now is because everyone can write code, the roles shift a little bit.

And I'm seeing this on the Quad Code team, for example, because on the Quad Code team, everyone writes code, including our designers, product managers, engineering managers.

Everyone writes because it's easy.

It's much easier to do now.

And it's actually awesome because my designer doesn't have to message me every time like, hey, can you move the button over by a pixel?

You know, she can just do it herself.

And so it's kind of great for everyone.

And so I've started to think that the roles are actually segmenting in kind of the opposite way.

And I've started to see people kind of split into prototypers.

These are people that are amazing at just figuring out like what is that first idea and like very quick iteration into builders.

So like once there's a new idea, figuring out how do you actually build this and, you know, bring this product to market.

Then there's maintainers.

These are the people that once the software is at scale, they can maintain it.

There's something that I call growers or maybe scalers.

These are people that take an idea and this product that exists that has product market fit and then scale it up.

Scale it 10x, 100x.

By the way, these people are very popular at Anthropic now.

Then I think the final role is sweepers.

I don't know if you guys have a better idea for the name, but I call it a sweeper, janitor or something.

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