Boris Cherny

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Odd Lots · The Creator of Claude Code on The Hottest Piece of Software in the World · 20 Jul 2026 podcast

Opus 4.5 in November, our growth inflected.

And then Opus 4.6 in February, our growth inflected again.

Now Fable.

So we kind of see these inflection points, and we saw this in Cloud Code's growth.

But the thing about Cloud Code is we are built on the same exact infrastructure that our customers use.

This is by design, because for Anthropic, we build products, but we also build a platform that other developers build on, and many, many thousands of companies build on our platform.

And so when you look at Cloud Code, we use the same public model that everyone does.

We use the same exact public anthropic API that everyone does.

We don't have some secret API that we use.

We use the same exact API.

And we call this dogfooding.

The idea is you build a product, you got to use your own product because that helps you make it a lot better.

And this is the way that we build quad code.

And so when the model got better, we benefited from this on the quad code side because we, you know, use the model through the anthropic API.

And a lot of our customers saw the same thing.

They saw a lot of the same growth for the same reason.

Yeah, so at this point, quad code is a big contributor to the anthropic business.

But like I said, it serves multiple purposes, actually.

The biggest one is learning about safety.

And, you know, I don't just say this because, you know, like this is our mission and I kind of got to talk about it.

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