Boris Cherny

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599 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 20 Jul

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And it's something that works with any agent because that's actually pretty important.

Like, we want this to be something that... Does it ever breach the sandbox?

It can.

And this is something we look for all the time.

So we do red teaming.

We do penetration testing.

So we actively try to find these breaches.

And whenever we find one, we fix it as quickly as we can.

But we generally want every model to be safer.

Yeah, I mean, like, think about how you do a math problem or, you know, like how you do a piece of writing.

Like, usually, like, when I do a piece of writing, I don't get it perfectly right the first time.

I do like a first draft, right?

And then maybe I'll edit it like a few times.

And then at the end, it becomes something good.

And sometimes it doesn't.

But, you know, it's kind of the same thing for us.

Like the creative process never goes directly to the right answer.

Models are not human.

You think of it as structure, but you know, like to me as an engineer, like I've been writing code for a long time.

To me, when I write code, it's like writing poetry or something.

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