Bozoma Saint John

Will determine how quickly I'm able to get out and correct myself.

Will determine how quickly I'm able to get out and correct myself.

Will determine how quickly I'm able to get out and correct myself.

Ooh, yes. It's like- Yes. I was having a conversation with a friend and I was like, you know that time, you know when you hit your shin? And that moment between knowing you've hit your shin and when the pain sets in is like the worst. Because you're just sitting there waiting for the pain to come. You're like, oh, I know this is going to hurt.

Ooh, yes. It's like- Yes. I was having a conversation with a friend and I was like, you know that time, you know when you hit your shin? And that moment between knowing you've hit your shin and when the pain sets in is like the worst. Because you're just sitting there waiting for the pain to come. You're like, oh, I know this is going to hurt.

Ooh, yes. It's like- Yes. I was having a conversation with a friend and I was like, you know that time, you know when you hit your shin? And that moment between knowing you've hit your shin and when the pain sets in is like the worst. Because you're just sitting there waiting for the pain to come. You're like, oh, I know this is going to hurt.

That moment right there is what sometimes we're sitting in. Because you don't want the pain to come. And so then we're sitting there being like, ooh, I made a mistake. Uh-oh, I hit my shin. How long can I wait before the pain sets in?

That moment right there is what sometimes we're sitting in. Because you don't want the pain to come. And so then we're sitting there being like, ooh, I made a mistake. Uh-oh, I hit my shin. How long can I wait before the pain sets in?

That moment right there is what sometimes we're sitting in. Because you don't want the pain to come. And so then we're sitting there being like, ooh, I made a mistake. Uh-oh, I hit my shin. How long can I wait before the pain sets in?

Yeah, yeah. No, look, Abby, thank you for that perspective, because I do often need the reminder of that too. And so I think both can be true. Part of the reason why I... Stopped looking at them as the cause or the reason why sometimes something didn't work or, you know, for me to figure that out is that I felt like I was giving my power away. And perhaps that's a survival mechanism.

Yeah, yeah. No, look, Abby, thank you for that perspective, because I do often need the reminder of that too. And so I think both can be true. Part of the reason why I... Stopped looking at them as the cause or the reason why sometimes something didn't work or, you know, for me to figure that out is that I felt like I was giving my power away. And perhaps that's a survival mechanism.

Yeah, yeah. No, look, Abby, thank you for that perspective, because I do often need the reminder of that too. And so I think both can be true. Part of the reason why I... Stopped looking at them as the cause or the reason why sometimes something didn't work or, you know, for me to figure that out is that I felt like I was giving my power away. And perhaps that's a survival mechanism.

You know, that I was like, well, if I look at myself, if I say it's me, then I'm better able to feel like, okay, I can make something else happen. I can be the one who chooses because I chose to come and I can choose to leave. And if I put the power over there, then it feels like I can't choose because I'm waiting for them to do the thing that's right. And so when I'm sitting at those tables,

You know, that I was like, well, if I look at myself, if I say it's me, then I'm better able to feel like, okay, I can make something else happen. I can be the one who chooses because I chose to come and I can choose to leave. And if I put the power over there, then it feels like I can't choose because I'm waiting for them to do the thing that's right. And so when I'm sitting at those tables,

You know, that I was like, well, if I look at myself, if I say it's me, then I'm better able to feel like, okay, I can make something else happen. I can be the one who chooses because I chose to come and I can choose to leave. And if I put the power over there, then it feels like I can't choose because I'm waiting for them to do the thing that's right. And so when I'm sitting at those tables,

And yes, almost always by myself. It is both frustrating to know that, um, I'm probably doing the right thing for the future, but also that I'm the one who has to take the brunt of it. You know, that, um, I actually, again, like I've been thinking a lot lately. Ever since I left my job. Doing a lot of thinking. And I was just like, damn, like the idea of hidden figures hurts so much.

And yes, almost always by myself. It is both frustrating to know that, um, I'm probably doing the right thing for the future, but also that I'm the one who has to take the brunt of it. You know, that, um, I actually, again, like I've been thinking a lot lately. Ever since I left my job. Doing a lot of thinking. And I was just like, damn, like the idea of hidden figures hurts so much.

And yes, almost always by myself. It is both frustrating to know that, um, I'm probably doing the right thing for the future, but also that I'm the one who has to take the brunt of it. You know, that, um, I actually, again, like I've been thinking a lot lately. Ever since I left my job. Doing a lot of thinking. And I was just like, damn, like the idea of hidden figures hurts so much.

Because to think that perhaps you were the catalyst. or something, and then nobody remembers your name. Nobody gives you the credit. And that's what it feels like when I'm in the room. You know, I'm thinking, this is gonna be so great for the people who come after, but will anybody remember me? Will they remember my pain, this moment, this choice I made? And if not, is that okay?

Because to think that perhaps you were the catalyst. or something, and then nobody remembers your name. Nobody gives you the credit. And that's what it feels like when I'm in the room. You know, I'm thinking, this is gonna be so great for the people who come after, but will anybody remember me? Will they remember my pain, this moment, this choice I made? And if not, is that okay?