Brad Gerstner

One must win and one must lose versus this idea.

You want America to win, but that doesn't have to come at the expense of poking an eye and telling somebody else they have to lose.

Because we're that confident.

You mentioned something that's profoundly important to both of us.

You and I have talked a lot about this, the American dream.

You know, and it was, I think, Abraham Lincoln who said, fundamental to the American dream is the right to rise.

Yeah, that's right.

The belief that your kids can do better than you did.

That's right.

Right, and you've experienced the right to rise.

We've all experienced the right to rise in America.

And yet, we live at this time where because of the nature

of these technological systems.

We have companies that are going to be worth 10 trillion.

We'll probably have individuals that are worth a trillion.

Those are the incentives that give people the encouragement to rise.

But at the same time, when we head into this age of abundance, something that I was deeply worried about was that too many people get left behind.

And they feel left out and left behind.

So it makes sense for them to attack this system of capitalism.

Something that you and I worked on together, and I'm deeply grateful for, was the idea of Invest America.