Brad Milkey

So the relationship between the brothers is kind of frosty.

What about later?

Because we did hear like Eugene kind of reinvented himself as the years went on, as we got further away from this murder.

Did he bring any of that Zen, that newfound perspective to his relationship with his brother at all?

Wow.

Okay.

So we're actually going to take a break right here.

But when we come back, we're going to have a message from Lauren's past.

All right.

So to hear Andre tell it in early 2020, he's not getting along with his brother, Eugene.

And so Andre reaches out to Lauren Prier.

What did she say?

But like they knew each other.

Well, and the one thing we kept hearing was how shocked people were to hear that Eugene was the killer, that he was pleading guilty to this, especially Lauren, who at one point knew him so well.

And I do want to come back to what I said earlier, just about finding out that your high school boyfriend killed your mom because all these details about Eugene do help us make sense of that picture.

But there's still a lot I guess we'll never know.

How does that sit with you as somebody who's reported on this for a while now?

And they kind of like what prosecutors would say was a cop out of him saying, I don't exactly remember everything like that still has to be frustrating, I imagine.

which then doesn't sound like that person is completely incapacitated or something.

Absolutely fascinating case.