Brad Stulberg

So that led me to public health school.

So that led me to public health school.

And it was there that I kind of had this aha moment, at least for myself, that there's really two ways to go about health care.

And it was there that I kind of had this aha moment, at least for myself, that there's really two ways to go about health care.

One is the care part, which is often disease driven.

One is the care part, which is often disease driven.

And the other is the health part, which is, well, how do we stay healthy?

And the other is the health part, which is, well, how do we stay healthy?

How do we thrive?

How do we thrive?

How do we keep ourselves out of the traditional health care system to begin with?

How do we keep ourselves out of the traditional health care system to begin with?

And that set me on this path to exploring all things human performance, health and well-being.

And that set me on this path to exploring all things human performance, health and well-being.

And through a whole bunch of just grind and pitching and getting rejected and getting rejected some more, I eventually got lucky and got some of my writing placed, which led to getting more writing placed.

And through a whole bunch of just grind and pitching and getting rejected and getting rejected some more, I eventually got lucky and got some of my writing placed, which led to getting more writing placed.

And it's just been an upworld swirl since then, though I still get declined more often than not.

And it's just been an upworld swirl since then, though I still get declined more often than not.

Yeah, and what I didn't realize and what's so interesting in hindsight is that I was training to become a nonfiction writer at McKinsey & Company.

Yeah, and what I didn't realize and what's so interesting in hindsight is that I was training to become a nonfiction writer at McKinsey & Company.