Brené Brown

It's so fun to say all three of the kids now that Ellen... Now I've got a new birdie in the nest with a son-in-law.

And we all went out on the boat.

It was a great day.

It was just fun.

And then I remember...

The kids, the older kids saying, we're going to head home.

And I was like, call me as soon as you get there.

I think there's a real – I think joy is the most vulnerable emotion we experience.

Really?

I'm so surprised by this.

No, yeah, hands down.

I think joy is incredibly vulnerable.

And –

Some people would say it's like waiting for the other shoe to drop.

It's just in moments of joy, if we're not practiced in... The people who can lean into joy, we found, had one thing in common, and that's a very strong gratitude practice.

That when they're in joy, they can say, I'm really grateful for this moment.

I would say for the majority of people we've interviewed, real true joy, deep joy, like a spiritual sense of being interconnected in love is vulnerable.

Yeah, I think maybe not for everyone, but when...

Over 90% of parents say, yeah, the deepest moments of joy trigger insane fear in me.

I think it's the same thing.