Brené Brown

It's really exciting.

Okay, we'll talk about sobriety.

I am dying to talk to you about this conversation.

I've had a small version of it with you.

And then I spent an hour and a half talking to...

My kids, so Charlie, Ellen, and Ellen's new husband, JT.

I spent like an hour talking to them about this.

I cannot watch the shows that y'all all love, starting with The Office, which is a collection of some of my favorite actors of all time, but I cannot watch it.

And so I want to get into why I can't watch it, and then I need you to cure me.

Okay.

And then the last thing we're going to talk, what, tell me.

What is it?

I love that I'm a specialist in leaving conversations.

That checks out.

Okay, we have talked about this before, and I wasn't sure if we were going to talk about it today, so I prepped with a lit review on leaving conversations.

I'm going to tell you why.

I was curious.

I had this weird experience, I don't know, maybe 15 years ago, when the TED Talk on vulnerability went viral.

I

saw someone like duo my talk and do a running commentary over the top of it.