Brené Brown

But I did have the physical addiction to nicotine.

And that was brutal.

I mean, the only reason I don't smoke today is I don't want to quit again.

And I don't want to die.

Other than that, I miss it every single day.

Every single day.

30 years later?

Every day.

30 years later.

And there are some things in my life that I do not do now.

because I can't have a cigarette.

I don't really sit in my backyard because what's the point if I'm not gonna smoke?

I would never have a non-alcoholic beer because what's the point if I can't have a cigarette?

And if a really good song comes on like Boston or ACDC, I'm gonna crack the window in my car and hold my pen like I'm smoking a cigarette and driving, like for sure.

It was so habitual for me that...

I knew the difference.

And so for folks who have to go into a physical, you know, the physical detox is, sometimes that requires a rock bottom because I don't know that you knowingly, even with a fresh start date, opt in for that, the brutality of that physical experience.

That is rough.

Does that make sense?

One thing I was thinking about that I wanted to talk to you about as I've been reflecting on my sobriety is how...