Brené Brown

Oh yeah.

It's just, it's incredible.

The second experience I had was maybe in the top, if not that maybe, yeah, maybe the most difficult professional experience I've had in my life, which was being invited to spend some time with the parents at Sandy Hook.

Wow.

And,

I have very strong feelings about gun reform.

As someone who was basically raised in a hunting blind, like I am not anti-gun ownership.

I shot skeet growing up, thought for a while I'd go to college on a shooting scholarship.

Like I, you know, like I was raised in a gun family, a hunting family, a skeet and trap family.

But I have always been a huge believer in gun reform as a result of that, actually, not despite that.

And so when Sandy Hook happened, they were first graders who were killed and my son was in first grade.

And so when I got invited to go, I was in a car going to Sandy Hook from New York and I had kind of one of my first professional full-blown panic attacks.

And I called Steve and I was like, I can't do this.

I can't.

It's too close.

I can't do it.

I'm scared.

I can't do it.

What am I going to say?

What am I, you know, I don't know.