Why Toughness and Kindness Need Each Other | The Curiosity Shop
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The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
1h 7m
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8 chapters
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Hi, everyone. In today's episode of The Curiosity Shop, Adam and I are... There's really very little that we're not talking about in this episode. I'm wearing my Spurs hat today. It's celebrating, and I think he's wearing a Pistons jersey because... He looks cute in it, but who knows? But I will say that we are talking about everything from the incredible culture that the Spurs have built. We're talking about what happens when shame seeps into cultures, sports cultures, but also home, work, faith communities. We are talking about hard stuff. We're talking about... gun reform. We're talking about grief related to everything from miscarriage, death by suicide, what grief looks like, why we need community, what it means to build families and cultures that are made equally of strength and kindness, and how that's really missing from a lot of
what we need today to deal with both the joyful things in our lives and the really hard things in our lives. We're glad you're here. Welcome to The Curiosity Shop, a show from the Fox Media Podcast Network.
Hi, Adam. Hey, Renee. How are you? I'm good. How are you? Good. We were just doing this funny thing. I'm going to bring it into the podcast. Okay. You have to choose. Lego or Duplo?
How does shame impact cultures in sports and organizations?
Lego. More creativity. Lego or Lincoln Logs? I think when I was three, it was definitely Lincoln Logs. But since then, it's been Legos. You?
Yeah.
I'm going to say Duplo over Lego, Duplo over Lincoln Logs, and then Tinker Toys. Do you remember Tinker Toys? No. Tinker Toys were like long color-coded sticks that almost looked like really skinny wooden straws. And then the joining piece was a circle, a wooden circle that was wood-colored that had circles all around, holes all around it and a hole on the top.
What role does grief play in building community and trust?
I remember those. Yeah, and they came in a big can. Similar, I think, to Lincoln Logs. Lincoln Logs came in a can, right? They did. Wait, why Duplos? I'm a rounded corner person because, remember, I see things in shapes, and I think rounded corners convey more emotional intelligence and regulation than square corners. And less pain when you step on them. And less pain. Yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, I grew up with very Lego-y kids. So I know the real pain of the, and it's not just the mound of them. It's the stray Lego that'll kill you when you step on it because you're not expecting it. It's the worst. Did you see the Lego slippers that got released a few years ago? No, what? It's an extra padded pair of Lego branded slippers so that if you walk around a room full of Legos, it doesn't cause you severe pain.
Okay, two inventions that I think I wish I had with my kids. One, the Lego slipper for sure. Two, now they have these mats where you do your Legos on mats and then you just pick up the mat. Oh, that's so clever. The four corners of the mat tie up into a Lego basketball, like basket thing. How long did it take us to think of this?
How can kindness and toughness coexist in leadership?
I know. This is as obvious as a rolling suitcase. Oh my God, I love it. Which took forever. It did take forever. I accidentally said basketball. I just would like some commentary on my hat today. Go Spurs. So exciting. Can you stand it? I mean, I, I'm not, I'm not, I don't have a personal attachment to the Spurs, but I've, I've always admired the culture of humility that they've built from the Admiral David Robinson to Tim Duncan now into the Wemby era. I think it's a great team. Can we just say Popovich is just amazing. A legend. Even as a native Pistons fan, I can admire all of that. Yeah, and you know, it's so funny because when you watch the sidelines, he's there now, but when you watch the sidelines, even when he was coaching, he was so loved by players from other teams too.
It was just, God, I mean, talking about the whole idea that love wins, such a Popovich ethos. OK, I do want to talk about the Spurs today because I want to talk about a couple of things that I've seen all over social media. I definitely want to talk about that. Can we talk more about Popovich, too? Oh, God. Oh, I can. I will. I will always talk about Popovich. Yeah. One of the things.
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Chapters
8 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–1:33
2
How does shame impact cultures in sports and organizations?
1:33–2:14
3
What role does grief play in building community and trust?
2:14–3:29
4
How can kindness and toughness coexist in leadership?
3:29–5:08
5
What insights do the Spurs provide about team culture?
5:08–7:42
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How does emotional intelligence affect performance?
7:42–10:35
7
What is the relationship between vulnerability and courage?
10:35–13:29
8
How can we better support each other in times of grief?
13:29–1:07:34
Speakers
2 identifiedMore from The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
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