Brenda Dennehy

But it was that she knew I was safe.

Yeah.

She knew I was safe and that she could actually sleep well to know, not worry, where was I?

And I didn't understand that, you know.

And it's funny, actually, because since I've lost my dad, I've nearly become the mother at times, my own mother now, right?

Like the other night now, her phone was just on silent and I couldn't get through to her.

And straight away in my head was like, oh, my God, something's after happening.

which like she did say in past she said like you know I know you were worried there about me but she said you know it kind of reminded me of the times where she was trying to reach me probably thought I was dead you know like and it just kind of all kind of comes back yeah it's god it's

It's a lot for families.

It's a lot for families.

I love what you say about, because I never saw that safety.

What did you say?

Safety for me needs to come before empathy.

It's a basic need.

Yeah, that is so, I think people are going to take a lot from that now, Lauren.

The safety had to come first.

And we mentioned safety and the email I'm going to read next comes on the back of...

a post that I shared, I believe it was one of the guests, Jason Byrne, who was on, he's in recovery.

You know the way people comment on social media.

So a couple of months ago, some guy commented, oh no, actually a guy commented on my post going, is Brenda a junkie?