Brendan O'Connor

And so, as much as that's a collective thing, it's also about, like, atomization and aloneness.

But after a while, if you hold the course again, as I said at the start, being consistent in how you are.

You know, for a boundary, for example, for someone is like, you know, in a relationship, I want to go with the lads for a weekend.

It's a totally normal thing to ask, to want, you know, and for you to go with your girlfriends for the weekend or whatever it is.

Let's say you've never done that before and you get pushback and say, don't you want to go out with me?

Do you want to go?

Why do you just want to go with that?

Well, this is going to take a little bit of a discussion.

It's going to take a few of these things to kind of to happen and come into your relational life.

But once they do and they've happened and everyone, the system will fall back into it.

OK, so that will be the new balance.

You'll have to force a little bit, push back against it and it will recalibrate again.

And different generations as well there and everything.

And is that kind of thing gone?

Because we do imagine Maine as a place of communities and of people who've been embroiled together for generations.

I think, honestly, it's one of the most corrosive things you can do is to withdraw emotionally from someone.

And that that creates a collective.

And I work with teenagers particularly is when parents are dissatisfied with their child, they stonewall them silence.

Yeah.

Okay.