Brendan O'Connor

And it might have been lost on them that this was lampooning the attitude to weight in the fashion industry or whatever.

In terms of the workplace then and bullying and toxic behaviour and everything, that was kind of an issue as well, yeah?

At some times more than others, though.

So when we talked about midwinter and you talked about that mini death that happened in the winter, now you're able to embrace the winter, I know.

I would differ with you on that, in that in the winter, I feel that light in me has gone a bit as well, right?

And then the light comes back this time of year and I do feel...

more whole, more alive, and that the light inside me is back again.

So this is a coming back to life as well.

Yeah, in that world anyway.

The weird thing then when you say that is that Anna Wintour...

She kind of leaned into, you know, the connection between her and Miranda, didn't she?

In a way, it bolstered the myth of Anna Wintermore.

And now she has actually done the cover of Vogue with Meryl Streep, this time in a cheeky wink to the whole thing.

So...

But it was a, quote, novel.

So as you've alluded to, the challenge now for the sequel is that 20 years on, the world of fashion, glossy magazines has changed hugely.

Yeah.

The Lunasa, you know.

You mentioned there about the gatherings and everything.

The money, the power, like it probably should be said in the world of influencers now.