Brendan O'Connor

And she said she didn't wear a dress for months, right?

And she said, I thought about withdrawing the kids.

It's a dinner salad more than... Like a dinner salad.

And I said, but, you know, how old is your father-in-law?

She was like, he's nearing his 80s.

I said, OK, let's put that in context.

He's in a different Ireland, different Ireland, child development, child psychology, talking how you talk.

We need to face back towards the bay more in Dublin, don't we?

I was like, how about you talk to him clearly?

Like, I mean, it's such an incredible amenity.

Because how people respond...

If you were in,

Any other European city that had a bay like that, swimming spots next to the city, everything.

human beings actually respond better to clarity than subtle resentment and avoidance and estrangement.

Like we don't we don't give it enough love.

Okay, okay.

And of course, Cork then just in case we're in trouble.

This is revolutionary stuff you're suggesting.

It is, well, it is.

And if I said, well, what would the conversation look like?