Brendan O'Connor

And I said, but, you know, how old is your father-in-law?

She was like, he's nearing his 80s.

I said, OK, let's put that in context.

He's in a different Ireland, different Ireland, child development, child psychology, talking how you talk.

We need to face back towards the bay more in Dublin, don't we?

I was like, how about you talk to him clearly?

Like, I mean, it's such an incredible amenity.

Because how people respond...

If you were in,

Any other European city that had a bay like that, swimming spots next to the city, everything.

human beings actually respond better to clarity than subtle resentment and avoidance and estrangement.

Like we don't we don't give it enough love.

Okay, okay.

And of course, Cork then just in case we're in trouble.

This is revolutionary stuff you're suggesting.

It is, well, it is.

And if I said, well, what would the conversation look like?

Yeah, the fantastic harbour greenway there.

You know, I'd say you sit down with them and say, we love you, the kids love you.

OK, so that's much more grave sounding than I think you told me the last time that that division was there.