Brendan Vogt

Got me to completely got me.

Sorry.

Completely.

Just trying to do good.

That was a good one.

No, but I think the floor is going to be much, much higher.

And the defensive part of it is like we were all prepared for it.

And it was such a given.

It got talked about less.

But it's been, I think, above expectation.

I thought came would come in and be solid defensively.

He's very good.

He's one of the better defenders on the team right now.

And in the very, the much smaller circle of trust of guys you expect to play hard on that end every night.

And I think like Jokic could not stop talking about details last season, execution details against teams like OKC.

And I'm as big a Mike proponent as you're going to find.

Probably not the headline for Mike's game.

Details.

I think with Cam in a Thunder series, even if he only has 13, 14 points, you're going to see a guy who is contributing when it comes to the details every step of the way.

I've got him on the outside, and there are a lot of things about Christian that I do trust, to your point, Harrison.