Brent Norling

I mean, what are they going to hire more graduates?

Um, so even if we do, um, see more money allocated, I just, I would question how that will be deployed.

Maybe they'll hire you on a contract basis.

I just don't think they will.

Yeah.

Yeah, like almost all of them.

And as a taxpayer, it's just outrageous because we just gave that money out, no security, no guarantees, and it hasn't been repaid.

And most of the time it was not used on, it wasn't used for the purpose that it was intended either.

So yeah, there's a lot of that that's going unpaid.

the events in 2020, you know, it's, it's the COVID response.

It's the effect that they had on the business.

And then they, they continue their story with, um, there'll be other things like they might've got affected by some flooding.

Um, you know, I had one guy who actually had a really large company.

Um, and he had about 800 people out on sites.

He did, um, labor hire.

Yeah.

Um, and he had three of his clients go into liquidation and relatively quick succession.

And then he couldn't pay his lender and got put into receivership and he's just lost everything.

Um, and so, you know, people might have, um, some different stories around the last couple of years, but it always starts with

2020.