Brené Brown

So it's what you're saying about community and a way...

It's like what we try to mimic in social work with wraparound services.

It's like we try to mimic community with wraparound services where community is the ultimate wraparound service.

Right?

That's right.

I can't believe you went.

Just imagining going into that room.

I mean, I think about the empathic distress of...

sitting with people who have faced the most unimaginable, horrific thing, and then also feeling like, well, how do I help?

What could I possibly offer here?

What did you do?

Listened, cried, laughed, told stories, listened to stories, and talked about

how one of the things that we don't talk about with grief a lot is the loss of ordinary, the loss of normal, the thing that we diminish the whole time when everything's going okay, how we're resentful of our small lives and the rituals that make up our small lives until the moment those things are gone.

And then all we really want is the ordinary part of our lives back.

And so...

I don't, the only thing I'm sure of, the only thing I'm 100% sure of about that work, and I went several times, is it changed me more than I could ever change them.

And look, if we're not willing to consider gun reform after Sandy Hook, then I'm clear, don't talk about our love for children as a nation.

Don't waste your bullshit on me.

Take it somewhere else because there's a way to think about gun ownership as a responsibility, not a right.

And as someone who's raised, again,