Bret Easton Ellis

Uh-huh.

So 20, that's a weird, you know, I kind of think the NFL has it.

Well, the NFL says, I don't know, seven years after you retire or five years or whatever.

Five.

Five years after you retire, you're eligible.

Right.

Right.

Whatever it is.

But you can't really do that with bands because as long as they're state fairs, there's going to be bands that are coming out of retirement to play.

So you can't really you don't well, you don't want bands to retire.

So you have to just sort of pick something.

And I guess it's 25 years after your first album dropped.

It's crazy that Nirvana is 25 years old.

It's unreal.

Yeah, because if you just woke me up in the middle of the night and you went, give me an example of new rock, I'd be like, Nirvana, smashing dumplings.

Stone Temple guys.

I don't know, but she did piss me off when I was... I think Maneater or another Hall & Oates song came on, and she announced to the heavens that it was one of her favorite songs.

But she's doing it just to fuck with me.

She was raised right.

Yeah.