Brian Barrett

I think, one, I'm fascinated that there's like different strains of this in this.

And it really, it brought me back so early on to like the armchair scientists in early COVID who were like, no, no, no, this is totally fine.

Yeah.

So for their

to officially be announced, yes, this is the strain that can get passed between humans, I think is notable, like at the very least.

Got to give me that.

I'm Brian Barrett, executive editor.

Speaking of AI, we'll also discuss whether Meta's recent layoffs are a turning point for AI taking over certain jobs.

Amazing.

We did it.

I think, too, Leah, that one of the reasons, it's not just that they're, like, big stakes.

Of course, they're big stakes.

But these are also very messy...

companies, individuals, like it is gossip.

It is sort of, there is so much swirling around OpenAI, XAI, SpaceX, Elon himself.

It's just, it is, the whole thing is a great big mess.

I think even Zoe just talking about even the structure of OpenAI is the most convoluted, twisty, turny kind of thing.

So yeah, there is a lot to unpack, but most of all, just delightful to watch people be petty on the stand.

Billionaire versus billionaire violence.

A Doge dig.