Brian Caulfield

And that's one thing we don't have is a kind of orbital rail solution in the city.

Exactly.

Well, I think you'd have a good guess why people are on the M50.

It's because they don't have any alternative.

There are no viable public transport alternatives.

And again, it's something that we're looking at in the survey.

And then it's, I suppose, understanding why people are using it and what alternatives could be provided.

Because we need it.

We need that motorway.

We need that motorway to work.

The city needs that motorway to work.

The country needs that motorway to work for moving people, goods, getting to the airport, getting to the port.

And right now it is not working as I'm sure many of your listeners that are on the M50 know.

There could be something in that.

Again, in the traffic models, they will know the volume of people that are doing that.

But again, I suppose my fear about doing something like that will become this outer orbital bypass.

And then the sprawl that we've seen happen with the M50 could happen again.

But there's definitely something in it and it's something that should be explored.

Yeah, exactly.

I'm sure there's a statistic there, similar to the one we have in Dublin City, that 40% of all cars in Dublin City aren't stopping in the city.