Brian Hayes

And if he's not ready to say, hey, yeah, I'm on board and everything, right?

I mean, John Tortorella, who we're now watching in the Stanley Cup playoffs again, I mean...

Things were said, and I'm not trying to, there's nothing negative about John, but oh boy, how he does this, how he does that, right?

Well, John's learned, and I think smart people can learn.

And you're right, Jeff, there might be a fear, but at the same time, don't just dismiss it, because like Carter Hart...

These are people that have shown a real capability to be really good, and people may disagree with that, but I believe in second chances, and I believe if they're ready to acknowledge your past and move forward, that's okay.

You're exactly right.

And think what Mike did in 15-16 with the Toronto Maple Leafs.

I mean, that was a team that finished at the bottom of the league, but they were competitive.

They didn't have enough talent.

But he got that team to max out.

Now you've got more talent.

There's no question he can get teams to max out.

And the more talent you have, the better chance you have for success.

Go ahead, Craig.

Blue Blanc Rouge, Mr. Hayes.

Do you face paint?

Do you face paint like you're face painting on a Saturday?

I was reading something.

Go ahead.