Brian Hayes

skillful European player.

He is that, but this guy, that's right, he can lose it and he can set the standard where it's just, I've seen it happen, where he's not just, ah, whatever, those guys can do it.

That's not the way he can do it.

They say that because they never won.

That's part of the reason why he's there, is to go and grab a guy and have a coffee, have a beer, and say, let's...

Let's talk hockey.

He can blend.

Okay.

You don't think Dave Poulin in Ottawa who –

is an executive, he's an assistant GM, you don't think he goes down, has a coffee, grabs a guy and says, you know that play last night?

I think it's just hockey people talking.

I don't think when somebody comes down like that, you're like, oh God, it's not like the head coach where you're like, what does this guy have to say?

It's just people talking hockey.

What do you make of the report from Chris Johnston that Austin Matthews wants... I fell out of my chair.

Like, was that not surprising to you guys?

Well, Johnny, I was saying you can't let somebody say...

Get rid of assets and do this and that, and then I'm going to sit back on my couch and make an assessment of it, and if I still don't like it, I'm still going to leave.

You can't run, you can't operate a business like that.

It's an impossible situation.

Because you could do a bunch of stuff, and what if he doesn't like it?