Brian Koppelman

The problem is none of us can find the language right now to talk about change because we get so angry so quickly.

I needed it.

I mean, sometimes you're lucky enough that a thought shows up and you just know it's true.

It's like, I got to start meditating.

I mean, I first heard about it so long ago, but I was pretty skeptical because I'm a science person and I'm not a person of faith in a deity beyond us and all that stuff.

And I think that often things like cults form around these ideas.

I read David Lynch's book, Catching the Big Fish, and the way he talked about meditation.

And I read some other people's books.

I was always fascinated by Buddhism, but I don't practice Buddhist meditation, though I read a lot of books by Buddhists.

But yeah, I think I was feeling like anxiety and tiredness and just world weariness.

And this is a long time ago now, I don't know, 15 or 16 years ago.

Yeah.

A friend connected me with Bob Roth, who kind of is the person who runs the Transcendental Meditation Organization and runs David Lynch Foundation.

And I met with Bob and I, he said to this day, I'm the most, I was the most skeptical, not cynical, but skeptical person he's ever sat with about this, where- Awesome.

I talked about the history of the allegations about cultism.

And I talked about, I'm never going to give you guys money beyond like paying for a lesson.

I'm not going to raise money for TM.

Like, and I, I said, so you got to, and he's like, I want to just help you.

Like, let me, do you want to learn?

Do you want to learn about this?