Brian Koppelman

You've got a team of guys who somehow are just hearts on their sleeves.

Jalen's the only one who's kind of guarded, even on his own podcast.

He's still guarded.

He's the leader.

But everyone else on the team, they're the opposite of guarded.

They just let you know what they're thinking and what they're feeling, and they're in it.

I mean, even Rick Brunson, who will argue with somebody.

It's really been an incredible thing to watch and be a part of.

And then makes all these incredible shots.

But I think that...

Yeah, I think this is great.

So you say the thing about the top five players, you know.

But I think he is.

But nobody thinks that way now.

player in the league, but I also think what you said about leadership, maybe it's, you gotta be a top, because if he is the best leader currently, because Steph, but they're out of the play, if he is currently like the best leader in a way, the team has taken on his characteristics, meaning the team, his character, really, because he is a guy who will sacrifice, he'll sacrifice his body, he'll keep getting up, he'll keep trying to, right?

How many fourth quarters has he had after games when he hasn't necessarily shot the ball well?

You know, I was like, here we go.

Okay.

And he just, he is a guy I was, I mean, I asked you this earlier, um, because it is a great thing, the texting, right?

You and I have been texting about the Knicks since as long as we've had text, the ability to text and known each other over 20 years now.