Bridge North East

Yeah.

But you still really like being around performers and stuff like that.

And then I've really built a whole career around that.

So I realized I was looking for evidence.

And then the one thing she sort of said to me was like, try find situations where you can put yourself in performative spaces and just keep the door open a little bit to the possibility that you might be wrong.

Like you might be right, but you might be wrong.

And if you open that door a little bit, then you're more likely to put yourself forward.

And if you sort of, you know, jump into that space and you speak at a few things or you perform at this thing, or even if you just tell a funny joke in front of friends and you start feeling like, oh, maybe I can do this.

You get exposed to that feeling of like, you get exposed to the actual feeling rather than someone telling you, yeah, you'll be great.

I should say as well that the psychologist that I saw, through the therapy I told a lot of other stories that I hadn't really counted as being positive experiences or really evidence of anything.

And she put them all on post-it notes on the floor and we kind of created this other necklace.

And when she was like, oh, you can just choose which one to wear,

That was a big light bulb moment of like, oh, I've been carrying around all of this evidence that I'm not good enough when I've actually got heaps of evidence in the other direction but I've just chosen to not ignore it.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Does it make a difference if you go in, like you go in sceptical about whether it's going to work or if you really believe it?

Because I feel like so many people would go into the therapy room and I think sort of like you said, Josh, kind of get asked to stand up and sit in the other chair and sort of embody their child self and maybe a little bit of scepticism would come in of like, what am I doing?

Yeah.

Is this really?

But it still works?