Brittany Luce

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And of course, thank you.

I wonder what makes this moment different from sort of previous iterations of men are trash.

Even just thinking one example off the top of my head, like not to sound like a really annoying millennial and rather like hyperbolic about it, but like

There are specific Destiny's Child lyrics that are burned into my brain.

Yeah.

You know?

I'm glad you brought up that song No by Summer Walker because it's, if I'm not mistaken, either samples or it has an interpolation of Yes by Beyonce, which the song was like, first time I said no, it's like I never said yes is how the lyric goes in that song.

It's a much more traditional song.

I think it's more about like not wanting to move forward physically in a relationship, which when you talk about No by Summer Walker, it feels like it really does

feel like not just a, there's not just a thematic sort of building upon that previous moment of girl power and sort of like, you know, pushing back on the men from like 25 years ago.

But it also is like a very like literal, it's like building upon it musically, very literally.

In an article for NPR Music, you actually compare the pop musings of starlets like Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo with Olivia Dean.

Just to keep things straight, because I know we introduced two Olivias to you all.