Brittany Luce

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This year, for the first time in NPR's history, public media is operating without federal funding.

That means NPR needs your support now more than ever.

I'm Brittany Luce from It's Been a Minute.

Please do your part to keep independent, reliable news coverage strong and support the podcasts that get you through the day by making a gift for public media giving days.

Head over to donate.npr.org.

This year, for the first time in NPR's history, public media is operating without federal funding.

That means NPR needs your support now more than ever.

I'm Brittany Luce from It's Been a Minute.

Please do your part to keep independent, reliable news coverage strong and support the podcasts that get you through the day by making a gift for public media giving days.

Head over to donate.npr.org.

This year, for the first time in NPR's history, public media is operating without federal funding.