Brodie Kane

But there's a great cycle of saying yes, overcommitting, but also wanting to sort of

Get amongst it while you can.

Yes.

And so I think it's cyclic though.

And one of the things that I find so fascinating about that is that we just don't do enough of it anymore.

And I think that that's probably societal.

If we look at this thing that we hold in our hands now far too much, our phones now.

and this and and how it deprives our brains of space that is something that i i wish we could all figure out like you know we talk about banning social media for under 16s what about a ban for the adults you know like i'm like we need it too but you know i um

Listen to a keynote speech last year.

Claire Turnbull did an amazing keynote speech about burnout and protecting our brains and all of these types of things too.

And how we all are just often in sort of survival mode, fight mode.

And one of the things that actually...

I became... You know, you always have your little nuggets from people in various ways.

And her one was just like how we... The one for me was how we just don't allow our brains to rest hardly ever during the day.

And what that does for creative people is deprives you of the spaces, in fact, where your brain needs to rest and can be more creative.

So, for instance...

you know, standing in a shower and not starting to put the lotion on or wash the hair and actually giving yourself a minute like we had, you know, where you're just actually under that water.

Or taking something like cooking, whether you like cooking, or running for me where you are not looking at a screen or thinking you've got to check something.

Yeah.

Because, you know, someone texts us now.