Brodie Kane

Same the other day, catching the bus into town over the Harbour Bridge, playing Toto's Africa, just looking over the bridge at Tamaki Makaurau.

I was like, yes!

This is it.

This is it.

Look around.

Everyone's on their phones.

I'm like, oh, gosh, we've got to, let's have some sort of massive societal intervention.

I don't know what the, I don't think that was an answer to a question.

Yeah, it was.

I don't know what that was, but there it is.

Yeah.

And, hey, shock horror, the world will still spin if you don't text back for an hour or two hours or, you know, we've done that to ourselves, though.

Well, I think a big, huge piece of it is my upbringing and my parents and watching them in terms of, you know, striving to be good people, you know, and sticking up.

You know, like if I think, you know, my parents, my mum and dad are very different, but also very similar.

But, you know, my mum has always been, she has always stood up for people.

And she has always backed herself for something she believes in.

No matter what people have thought of her, she has, in various facets of her career,

She has always fought on behalf of people or if she thought something was wrong, she said it out loud.

Or even, yes, but even if we took her sort of –

Her career in local body politics.